What's Next for SC Democrats?
The Reform Debate Continues

Your Ideas and Comments # 4
This is the fourth in a series of responses to the
original New Democrats editorial entitled "What Now for South Carolina
Democrats?" written by SC New Democrats Co-
chairs Mayors Floyd Nicholson of Greenwood, Bob
Coble of Columbia and Phil Noble, Director of the
SC New Democrats.
Folks from all across the state have responded to the
editorial and sent in their ideas and opinions of what
we need to do to reform the party so that we can
win again statewide.
Your responses have
been
published in three editions so far:
“Your Ideas and Opinions”
#1,
#2, #3
And now the fourth edition. We hope that you have
found this frank exchange of ideas and debate
interesting and useful. We don’t always agree, but
we think this type of open and honest discussion is
absolutely vital if we are to reform the Party and
win.
None of us, individually, are as smart as all of us
together - and we need as many voices as possible
to be heard.
Now, it’s
your turn. Read what others have
said and
give us your ideas and suggestions.
Thanks and stay tuned.
Phil Noble
Director
PS -
Forward this to some of
your friends that you
think might be interested.
Realities of Local Parties
First - We need to plan a clear strategy and message,
and then equip our elected officials, candidates
and "troops" to articulate that strategy and
message.
Second - We should not write off any counties or
precincts as "lost."
Third - We need to be authentic Democrats. I’ve
winced in the last few general elections when I’ve
seen and heard Democratic candidates trying to "out-
Republican" their GOP opponents by taking bland and
sterile positions.
Fourth - We need to hear from, encourage, respect
and energize our "base" and break what has become
a familiar cycle of events leading up to the last few
general elections.
Fifth - We need to welcome, cultivate and make room
for new voices, even in positions of leadership.
More
Joe Darby
Charleston, SC
josephdarby@bellsouth.net
State Reform
I think we need to work for changes that will benefit the
democratic process in South Carolina. We have to
have something to offer the majority party as well as
the minority parties. I know that some Democrats in
Anderson County voted in the Republican primary to
try to influence the outcome of both a local race and
the race for governor because they told me so;
Republicans have done the same in past elections.
Joe Erwin reported to us at an Anderson County
Democratic Party meeting that only South Carolina
and Utah require parties to pay the costs of
presidential primaries. This affects both the
Republican Party and the Democratic Party in South
Carolina. I think it's healthy to begin a dialogue with
our Republican counterparts about changing this
reality and having public funds pay for Presidential
primaries and have the State Election Commission
and local voter registration offices take over their
operation. More
Philip Cheney
Anderson, SC
PhilCheney@yahoo.com
Banishing the Red State Mentality
In SC the Democratic Party per se, is not truly
representative of what the Democratic Party stands
for, nationally. Attempts are made to give lip service to
some of those principles in a general way, but when it
comes to supporting and representing the interests of
all (inclusiveness) the party takes the safe path, not
really speaking out on issues that are openly
supported in other areas of the country.
Labeling SC a 'red state' is no reason to take a
benign approach during campaigns. There is a new
day in this country and SC was one of very few states
that could not get Democratic candidates elected on a
national level. Now we are embarrassed by a
representative that in many instances does not show
up for important votes or votes with Dark Age
principles. We can do far better than that by emerging
from the post civil war way of thinking and run
energetic, straight forward campaigns. The Nancy
Pelosi model comes to mind.
Harriet Smartt
Isle of Palms, SC
hsmartt379@aol.com
Winning in
SC
There are more than a few ways the Democratic Party
can win in South Carolina. We, however, seem to
often find ways to lose. Democrats almost always
face a campaign-funding deficit. Recently, we have
faced a patriotic tide driven by 911 and some
manipulation thereof. Our traditionally religious
population is highly influenced by a right-leaning trend
that is beginning to wane somewhat nationwide. We
could win some points by abandoning issues and
constituencies that allow Democrats to be easily
marginalized by a well-funded Republican and
Libertarian opposition. My suggestions center on
sticking with and defending important principles,
rather than becoming "Republican lite." More
Harry Harris
Sumter, SC
h.harris@earthlink.net
Tax Cuts and Off-Shore
Drilling - Part 2
I do not want to "Hog" the inputs, but after reading my
1st input I left out a
few things.
1. The comment I made on vehicle sales tax--The
$300.00
sales tax "Cap" should go, along with it--personal
property tax on a vehicle. This is truly a burden on
lower income people. The individual who pays
$100,000.00 for a vehicle and someone who buys one
for $5000.00 pay the same sales tax. Not A very equal
taxing.
2. The South Carolina Education Lottery-These funds
should be directed to middle or high school. If you
cannot get a high school diploma--you cannot go to
any college-regardless of cost.
3. The debate about tobacco tax could go on-and on.
We need to raise these taxes at least to what
neighboring states are charging--if for no other reason
than to keep "black marketing' down. The money
raised could go to cover those who have no
insurance.
4. The DOT needs to be taken away from political
appointees.
This last fiasco with a director being allowed to retire
and receive a fortune in state retirement is typical of
big government at its WORST.
5. Finally-the allowing of state retirement funds to be
invested in overseas or other uncontrolled venues is
ridiculous. The state of Florida allows this and in 2003
lost almost $400,000,000.00 in a "high risk" fund. Who
made up the difference-the tax payers.
Carl Corvin
Summerville, SC
sammon42@juno.com
Local Voting
Listening to the radio this morning I heard the new
national director of the Democratic Party saying they
had money to fix a proper hq and leftovers to help the
states. Boy, do we need help.
Having spent quite a few hours in our office here in
Beaufort calling numbers that were wrong, no longer
valid, or had been called for three years and been told
that the contact was a Republican and Please, please
take their name off the list.
I realize you are working on leadership, but I can only
urge that leadership work on the nasty little details -
updating voter lists - that are the backbone of
successful campaigns.
Thank you,
Sally Mitchell
sallym@islc.net
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